Yesterday I finally finished the 1.5 hour interview with Lyall Taylor that I had on my to-do list. Lyall is a super controversial figure within the financial Twitter world. One can almost always count on him coming in with an opposing take to news, views, and investments. I find him interesting because few do what he does: solo manages a truly global fund with 150+ positions that is turning over regularly (at least in the smaller position / long tail) in deep value names. That is brutally hard work – and he self describes himself as someone who works constantly, to his own satisfaction.
In the interview, I found it refreshing and a good reminder of what the opportunities in the world are outside of developed Western markets. To that end, he described how 20-30% of his portfolio is in Russian or neighboring countries, a material amount in Hong Kong after the market there has cratered, another chunk in LatAm, a smidge in Africa (with caution that it is extremely inaccessible), and some in North America.
What was interesting is how he describes the quality of the businesses he owns, particularly in the financial services sector, and the price one can pay for them in those geographies. It makes a North American investor sweat hearing those metrics and prices. That said all emerging market businesses trade at those levels for a reason. But there are markets in which the capital balance is simply the inverse of North America. Specifically, there is a lack of capital that drives relative undervaluation versus an oversupply of capital driving relative overvaluation.
Russia is borderline un-investable. Africa has burned so many Western investors that only the intrepid wade in. LatAm is almost on its own cycle of recessions and recoveries. However keeping the rest of the world within the lens of what exists and is possible is always worth keeping tabs on.